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Inside Otep Shamaya’s Mind

Inside Otep Shamaya’s Mind published on 7 Comments on Inside Otep Shamaya’s Mind

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Two years ago my manager Michael had an online argument with an Uncle Tom called Josh Olson over his defense of Otep’s Menocide. Most of this exchange took place at Otep’s site, and on his part ended with Michael  writing that Olson was a waste of time. Unfortunately, right after that Otep decided to write a comment defending the song, and by then of course we weren’t listening anymore.

As part of the process of re-posting at this site the articles that I had at Porky’s Place, I ended up at that Otep’s site and finally bumped into her comment. The fight is long over, but my tolerance for irrationality is not so I take a look at her response below. As a left winger I find it worrying that people on my own side of politics are so demonstrably illogical – one would think they could keep their inner Glenn Beck behind  close doors, but alas no.

“OTEP Says:

May 31st, 2009 at 9:59 PM

Ye gods, I love this. I was hoping for a good laugh today – and I got it.”

In other words, your views are laughable because I say so, not because of any evidence I may have to present.

“You represent your side so well, Mike – a bunch of ninnies and sissies and crybabies with the intellectual capacity of a rancid sack of rodent shit.”

Note the usual “MRAs are whiners” meme, along with language that is meant to both infantilize and demean the group, as opposed to bothering to present evidence as to why we are wrong. As for  intellectual capacity, it is hard to take such criticism seriously from someone who so far has presented no actual intellectual argument, only cheap tricks.

“The song you refer to is from my first album released in 2002 and focuses on those who rape, mutilate, and intellectually enslave.”

This is quite clearly a lie, and an easy one to prove as the lyrics concentrate on men, men, and men. At this point Otep has gone from being tricky to just plain lying about the facts, rather like going from being CNN to  being FOX in the blink of a handful of  words.

“So, you’re saying that you support those behaviors and that I’m wrong for denouncing them? Wow.”

I didn’t say such a thing, but let’s keep in mind that all she has to offer are ad hominems of  different colors – this one seems a deep yellow. There was a time when I would have bothered to say “nay” to her accusation, but I no longer care what her ilk think.

“I also wrote a song that strongly condemns MOTHERS who murder their children (ooooh, I must hate all women too).”

Unless the song was about killing all women, as opposed to simply “condemning” a particular subset of women, it can not be compared to a song called MENOCIDE, which by its very title implies men as  a group, not a subset of said group. It is not after all called, BADMENOCIDE, or SOMEMENOCIDE, and at no point do the song’s lyrics make a distinction between different subsets of men.

“But you needle-dicks don’t care about truth or facts or any of that — oh no! it would destroy the sympathy slide you mongrels ride on your way to sucking Rush Limbaugh’s sagging man-teat.”

Note the all too common attack on MRA penis size, which apart from its purely insulting intent may also be taken as a metaphor for not being manly enough. Funny how the so-called progressives fall back on traditional notions of masculinity when it suits them and eschews them when politically convenient. As for the sympathy slide, I only wish there was such a thing – maybe then we would see some real progress – as long as it didn’t lead to Limbaugh’s teat, or Jon Stewart’s for that matter. This assumption that I must somehow be a member of the right makes me wonder if she even looked at the site before commenting. On the other hand, if you want to discredit someone with the lefties at her site, there is no better way than accusing them of being a Limbaugh fan so this may simply be another lie…

“Josh is right. You are completely pathetic but in a very comedic way. You even use a video of me and my MALE band performing at OZZFEST — a festival that is dominated by testerone and machismo — to prove that I hate ALL men?”

You don’t have to like men to work with them. I’m sure there are many misogynists working with women, even when those women aren’t writing the music that’s made them stars. As for hating “all” men, there are always exceptions to the rule, but such exceptions don’t stop one from hating the group while liking or tolerating some of its members. I, for example, hate feminists but am quite fond of jerking off while looking at pictures of Naomi Wolf, though I’m not sure that’s the same thing…

“Seriously? Wow.”

No, the whole thing has been a hoax!

“The sad part is you don’t even realize the absolute, unrelenting failure of your own argument.”

Apparently neither does Otep or she would have been able to offer more than puerile insults and irrelevant statements.

“It would be easy to pity you and your poverty of spirit, but I prefer to follow Josh’s example …. and LAUGH.”

Remarkable that someone who writes songs about wiping out half the human race would accuse anyone short of a Nazi of “poverty of spirit, but hypocrisy and dishonesty are common bedfellows, especially amongst feminists.

There you have it, a nice selection of gibberish with which to while away one of those days when you’ve woken up too late to bother going out anywhere..

You know, a couple of years ago I would have relished doing such an analysis, but this time it just felt like a bit of a chore. Most likely this is because the majority of people don’t give a toss about logic, hence such an effort is largely fruitless. Indeed, a lot of people will see Otep as having won this simply because she got in most of the ad hominems, all of which makes me think I should drop any attempts at rational argument and simply stay in “mocking mode” all the time.

A Closer Look at the Scuzz from “The Talk”

A Closer Look at the Scuzz from “The Talk” published on

When women laugh their heads off at some poor guy having his penis hacked off, one immediately thinks, “What kind of women are these, and do they have any sons?” So I took a look at that old Wiki there, and here are some raw stats on these man-hating GynoBeasts…

Sara Gilbert was the closest thing to a decent human being on that panel, so I’ll be leaving her alone. I will just mention that she is a lesbian with one adopted son, and she is the creator of the show so if anyone has the power to do something about this it’s Gilbert – though I won’t be holding my breath. Gilbert is also a vegan, which makes her a rarity amongst lesbians.

First and foremost amongst these dirtbags we have Sharon Osbourne, a creature who needs no introduction. Osbourne has two sons, one biological and one adopted. One might wonder how she would explain her hateful behavior to the boys, but being raised by such a woman they probably won’t even bother to ask why their sex is treated as a walking punchline. As for poor old Ozzy’s ball and chain, I can only hope that her cancer comes back and that this time the Devil doesn’t do her any favors…

Leah Marie Remini has no sons, just a male dog that she married back in ’03. She is a scientologist though, so whenever she does something reprehensible she can always plead some sort of mental impairment.

Holly Robinson Peete has three sons. That’s three dicks just waiting to be hacked off by some psycho woman, at which point mommy can call her mates over and they can all have a good laugh at the bleeding stump.

And last but not least we have Julie Chen. Chen’s ass won’t be hit by the door anytime soon as she is married to Les Moonves, the big cheese at CBS. Since marrying Les, Chen has been stepmother to two boys and last year gave birth to her own baby boy, for whom she apparently cares little otherwise she would not be such a misandrist cow. Now here is the killing joke – Chen stole her husband from his previous wife, so I must ask her if stealing another woman’s husband means Chen “deserves” to have her cunt hacked out? If the answer is yes, just give me a call Julie – I’ll be round with a chainsaw quicker than you can say “man-hating, home-wrecking scumbag.”

Catherine Kieu Becker is a Castrating Scumbag

Catherine Kieu Becker is a Castrating Scumbag published on

Not happy with cutting off her husband’s penis Catherine Kieu Becker then threw it in the garbage disposal, presumably so it couldn’t be reattached.

The little turd then told the authorities that he “deserved it,” perhaps because he was divorcing her,  though once she lawyers up we can no doubt expect a laundry list of imaginary offenses with which to vilify the victim and minimize the crime.

If American men had any self respect left they would lynch the cow, but as we all know by now most of them probably agree that he “deserved it,” and will be having a good laugh instead. And that brings me to the question of what should be the penalty for cutting off a man’s penis.

Perhaps the penalty for such a crime should be death, at least in the US where the idea of the death penalty for rape has at times been proposed. After all, you can get over a rape, but you can’t get over having your penis cut off and minced. We must also consider the hate crime aspect of this particular type of offense. What Becker did was not merely an attack on her husband but also on you, on me, your sons, your brothers. It was in short a collective “fuck you” to the male sex, just as some racists dragging a black man behind a truck till his head tears off is a collective “fuck you” to all black people.

No doubt there are those who will argue that there must be some psychiatric or psychological explanation for this GynoBeast’s actions, that something is wrong with the poor dear. And of course they are right, there is something wrong with her – she’s a scumbag.

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